Frog Breathing

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Frog Breathing

Postby SimonWP » Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:48 am

How do i determine the best way to use frog breathing to help improve my FVC. Currently I have a FVC of 0.9L at best, with air stacking using frog breathing I can get to an FVC of 1.7L at best. I am on a NIPPY3+ pressure EPAP6 IPAP26 BPM 16 (which I am questioning as it is an open circuit and isn't effective enough in keeping my sats up when asleep)

I haven't used regular frog breathing for years, only when needing to cough. I have an extensive fused spine (13 vertebrae) and a harrington rod. Can I over inflate (I can get very dizzy and assume am affecting the blood flow), what can i expect to achieve and what kind of regime would work best?

Is frog breathing as good as using an abubag or machine on volume?

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Re: Frog Breathing

Postby bachjr » Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:04 am

Usually, but not always, one can air stack to higher volumes using an Ambu than by frog breathing. Still, frog breathing is very valuable and often a great substitute for ventilator dependence during the day. You can not air stack on BiPAP settings which is what you are on and should not be. You should be using volume preset of 800 to 1300 ml on assist/control on a vent with an active circuit. Even people using vents like the Trilogy are always mistakenly put on BiPAP settings with a passive rather than an active circuit, preventing them from air stacking.
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Re: Frog Breathing

Postby IVUN » Fri Sep 02, 2016 9:39 am

Just an FYI: video of frog breathing.

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